Ask A Question. Browse More Questions. Keep me logged in on this device. Forgot your username or password? I saved right before I entered Ashur's place, and played through the end a few different ways. I killed Ashur right in his place, took the baby and left. I took the baby and stealth boy'd out of there, and I simply went back and wasted Wernher. Now I'm trying to figure out whose side I like more.
Wernher is the guy you're supposed to trust, and it's all his idea, but when you choose Ashur's side, Wernher's profane rant at the end seems to imply he doesn't care that much. Neither ending hurts the baby, although one kills her parents, so that sorta counts. Midea I don't like at all, so if you side with Ashur, you can waste her to get to Wernher's hideout.
And Ashur is a good guy in a bad spot if you listen to his tapes. It's a tough choice, really. Cause the good choice is for the bad guys. And the not-as-good-but-still-not-terrible choice results in a dead family and a guy in power who isn't much better. I think I'm gonna side with Ashur and the slavers, but I was just wondering what you guys all chose and why?
It seems like if you don't care about people at all, you get more loot by siding with Wernher, but that's not really enough motivation for me. User Info: Orenklew Orenklew 12 years ago 3 I think killing the slaves gives you bad karma, but next to that you won't lose any karma. User Info: slowxxxburn slowxxxburn 12 years ago 7 I abolished slavery in the game so I had to kill Ashur and the rest.
The cure is really just a secondary priority here, the orphan baby needs a new home so Midea gets to be the foster mom. Workers could be paid with production shares and trade caravans would bring in supplies in exchange for the steel products.
Post by Laclongquan » Thu May 27, pm What the hell? It's very obvious that we are going with the slaves. I know you dont care for slaves but should anyone have to eat Trog slop? This is a soulful question here. Slave revolt is a thing.
Stand on the side of raiders and you stave that off for maybe another month. Who the hell would want to work their ass off to eat slop made of trogs? So standing on raider is a futile thing. I bet they never had slop once. Midea I have no opinion about but that man is, I dont know, typical Wasteland strongman chief. The point is, Ashur sit on the throne made of blood and lives of slaves so down he go.
Wenher Smenher, if not him then other can replace him. I dont know why people even hesitate on this very basic, point-giving, question. Sarah being a mother? Please, as if we need to or have to kill her anyway. Ashur being a good father? Baby getting test and everything?
Let me remind you guys of one basic rule of slave revolt: bosses die, down to babe in craddle. Survive is a great thing, innit. Slave society dont work without slaver or manager? Please, this is no ancient slavery in agricultural or even near modern age. This is a group of hard workers who had to work a steel mill complex to make bullet case and possibly other complex things as well.
Think of Pittburg workers in the They damn well can work. If you think otherwise, some blue coverall muscled old men are going to beat you to death with their walkers.
Risewild wrote: Ashur doesn't like using slaves, and also doesn't like the word "slave". He is only using them because it is the only way to build a future for The Pitt. He uses slaves because no one else would want to work in The Pitt because of all the radiation sickness. His plan is to build a industrial community that will benefit mankind for the future.
He says that once the cure is found using his daughter Marie to do it , he won't need to force people to work anymore and will free all the slaves. After that he will continue using the industrial complex in The Pitt to pave the road for the benefit of mankind.
A community that will be fair for everyone, leader and workers where everyone will be prosperous and work on their own free will. It will be a prosperous place that can make use of the pre-war machinery to help mankind's future. Basically, Ashur's doing a bad thing now to lead to a good thing for everyone. Exactly like "the end justifies the means". He's not proud of it, he doesn't even like it, but he's doing it to make the wasteland a better place for everyone. Now Wernher says he wants to save the slaves, but what he does and says shows that he actually just want to sit in Ashur's throne.
He doesn't mind killing an innocent baby if that makes that ascension to power faster. After we depose Ashur and Wernher takes control, everyone is still a slave and working exactly the same as when they were under Ashur's rule.
No one is free, no one leaves The Pitt, nothing changes. Ashur has a plan for the future. Plus, if you Child at Heart Midea, you find references to the fact that Werhner is thinking about a power grab more than a better life.
I sided with the slaves once, just to stock up on Jet, Buffout and unique raider armor. Have you seen all the drugs and alcohol lying around? Their freedom comes with the price of the Pitts long term failure IMO. The obvious choice for the "good ending" at first appears to simply free the slaves. If you are willing to look past slavery however, you begin to think more critically about Werhner and what his ideas actually are.
Suddenly the choice becomes much more muddled. Its really a pity the Pitt wasn't larger than it was. When I dragged myself through the hideous, completely illogical, ridiculous mess that is The Pitt, I sided with the slaves, because Ashur and his pals are morons.
If there was a nuke the entire place and kill everyone, option, I would. It was a hole, Ashur killed the raider gangs' leaders and took over.
He then bought slaves from all over the east to restart the Mills and then work at them. Nothing illogical about that. And how is Ashur a moron? Dragging himself from rubble among savages then building an empire out of them is not the sign of a moron but making a statement without evidense is. As a servant, a courier, a trader, yes.
But never a slave. Now going in as a slaver, that makes sense. But no one is stupid enough to put themselves in a position they potentially can't get out of, for some vaguely described goal.
Ashur is a hypocrite. He enslaves people, but thinks and acts like he's being good, because he's capturing and buying these unfortunates for some big, vague ideal. After speaking to Wernher, he will give the player character a Stealth Boy. With the Black Widow perk it is possible to get a few stimpaks or ammunition from him as well.
Leave Wernher's hideout and go to the underground entrance located at the opposite side of the tracks from the supply plant. Enter via a manhole at the very end of the train tracks, similar to the one in Paradise Falls.
Once inside there are around two dozen trogs to fight, along with a Protectron which can be activated to help. Head to a terminal where the floodlights can be shut off, then exit through the door leading to Haven 's courtyard. Here Lord Ashur and Sandra will confront the Lone Wanderer if they survived their initial encounters with the player character and will quickly become hostile and attack.
Even if the player character remains hidden the dialogue will be triggered. One can kill Ashur and loot his body he drops his unique power armor as well as the key to the Pitt underground or leave him to his fate: if the fight with Ashur is avoided, a horde of trogs will swarm the Haven courtyard and engage Ashur and any of his surviving Pitt raiders in combat. One can steal the baby without harming Sandra, kill the raiders, talk to Wernher and just refuse to go along with the second part of his plan and decide to return the baby to Ashur.
A Speech or Black Widow check must be passed, otherwise Wernher will have to be killed. Ashur is upset, but ultimately accepts what happened. The Wanderer will have the option to ask him to free the slaves but there is no way to get him to agree. Sandra, however, will not forgive the player character for kidnapping her daughter but will still accept and pay for toys while always having some snarky comments. If one decides to kill Ashur and return to Midea's house, they will find Wernher outside.
He tells them that he will be reorganizing the city and that word should be spread out of the Pitt in order to get more workers down in the Mill. He also advises that the Wanderer has earned their share of the ammo press and that they can gather steel ingots and give them to the foreman in exchange for gear a continuation of the Mill Worker quest. By talking to Midea, the quest to collect and return teddy bears to her is given. Haven, however, will be locked so any loot left inside will be inaccessible.
The raider vendors Friday and Harris will also be dead, killed by the ex-slaves. Their keys can be found on their bodies to loot their store inventories. Since Ashur is dead, The Lone Wanderer can declare themselves the new leader of the Pitt depending on the dialogue choices made.
If they do, Wernher will begin to call the player character "boss. To ensure the Lone Wanderer becomes the new leader, select the dialogue option " That leaves me as the new Lord of The Pitt. Fallout Wiki Explore.
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